In this powerful and deeply personal episode of Crusade With Me! Dave sits down with a lifelong friend — Pastor Mike Hesterman — to revisit a 30‑year friendship and a 50‑year faith journey.

Pastor Mike opens up about his early life as a self‑described scoundrel, his years of rebellion, his time in the Army during a racially tense and dangerous season, and the night in 1975 when he was forced to confront the question: “If I died tonight… where would I go?”

What follows is a raw, honest, and moving conversation about:

• Growing up between two strong traditions — Lutheran and Mennonite
• Wrestling with infant baptism, adult baptism, and what Scripture actually says
• The dangers of drugs, deception, and dabbling in darkness
• The moment in Germany that changed everything
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