Update --- 1-5-26 This episode was recorded back in September of 2025 before the release of Zahna's song Defiler, Per Zahna's request we have released the episode on January 8th 2026. So please beware that this episode was recorded and edited from the past.

Man oh man this episode features Zahna! the Christian rock/metal artist who wrote the album Stronger than death

P.S. The Reason why Neeko has a different background than usual is because his internet had an outage during the time of the interview with Zahna so he went to a place with with better internet.