On this episode of Crazy Real with Bugge & Zogg, Jenn and Marissa sit down with Bill Pendock, legendary Syracuse University defensive lineman and member of the iconic “Four-Wheel Drive” defensive line.

Bill shares how he went from growing up in Liverpool to being recruited by more than 200 schools, choosing Syracuse over Penn State, and helping build one of the most memorable defensive lines in SU football history. He talks about the intensity of football in the 1980s, the packed Dome, the Syracuse/Penn State rivalry, and what it was like being recruited by names like Joe Paterno and Tom Coughlin.

The conversation also gets real about the physical toll of the sport, life after football, NIL, the changing culture of college athletics, and why the game today feels so different from  ...