In this episode of the Copper State Marching Podcast, hosts Martin Hebda and Dan Hoffman sit down with show designer and program coordinator Ryan Springler for a deep dive into the art and strategy behind marching band show design.

The conversation explores what a program coordinator really does, how successful design teams collaborate, and why trust and communication are essential to building a thriving band program.

Along the way, Ryan discusses his creative process, the importance of developing a broad library of artistic influences, and why designing a show is less like sculpting marble and more like gardening—nurturing ideas, people, and culture over time. The trio also reflects on memorable Arizona shows, lessons from decades of collaboration, and how thoughtful leadership can elevate both student experiences and program succe ...