More than a century after the 1904–1908 genocide scattered the Nama people across Namibia and Botswana, their descendants are demanding a seat at the table in the ongoing reparations talks between Namibia and Germany. Nicodemus Cooper of Botswana's Namakhoen Network of Heritage Advocacy, Bhibo Maruping-Kgari of the San community's Indigenous Women's Rights Advocacy, and Jennifer Isaacks of Namibia's Traditional Leaders Association join fresh from the UN Expert Mechanism on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples' 19th session in Geneva to discuss Botswana's new government moving toward ratifying ILO Convention 169, the San people's continued exclusion from Botswana's constitution, and why states must listen to — rather than decide for — the Indigenous communities on their own land.

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