What if getting college “wrong” is sometimes how you get it right? In this episode, Jeff Burgess reflects on his unconventional college experience — one that had very little to do with grades, textbooks, or diplomas, and everything to do with people.

Jeff shares how culture shock, exclusion, unexpected friendships, and hard lessons outside the classroom shaped his understanding of race, acceptance, and human connection. From dorm-room misfires to finding belonging in unlikely places, he explains why college became less about academics and more about learning how to relate, listen, and live alongside people from every background.

A candid, humorous, and thoughtful episode about education beyond the syllabus — and why the lessons that matter most often happen when you least expect them.

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