Kris Butler is a lawyer, executive coach, award-winning home brewer, and author of Drink Maps: A History of Drinking Establishments in England. In this episode, she shares her journey from practicing adoption law to coaching lawyers at a major firm, her years as a beer judge and home brewing champion, and her deep dive into Victorian-era drinking culture that became a published book. Kris reflects on following curiosity across careers, the distinction between work "for money" and "for fun," and what it takes to commit to a passion project when no one's waiting for you to finish it. A conversation about Renaissance thinking, persistence, and building a life around what genuinely interests you.