Recorded live at the Davidhorn Police Interview Summit 2026 in Manchester, Dr Ivar Fahsing speaks with Vasylyna Yavorska — Ukrainian lawyer, criminal justice reformer, and CEO of JUST Group — about what it means to try to transform a criminal justice system in the middle of a war.

Vasylyna has coordinated Ukraine's national team of investigative interviewing experts since 2017. In this conversation, she talks candidly about the challenge of shifting practitioners away from confession-focused thinking, the structural barriers to scaling investigative interviewing across a large and complex justice system, and the moment in March 2022 — Kyiv still partly occupied — when her team was asked to develop guidelines for interviewing prisoners of war.