Anti-Zionist education doesn't just mean unlearning Zionism. Many Jews, including today's guests, have undertaken educational projects where anti-Zionism is a starting point. In our conversation, the Haiven family take us through community building and ostracization from the Jewish community in Canada, learning and practicing their own version of Jewish traditions, and the sustaining power of rage. The whole episode is like listening in on an everyday conversation around a radical dinner table.