With the resurgence of the Black Lives Matter movement many college students started to critique their college's use of policing as a means of controlling the student body. I talk today with Arlo Fleischer, a member of Middlebury's branch of the national movement for Cops off Campus. We discuss how Middlebury's use of "Public Safety" officers affects students, how to reimagine campus safety without the use of officers, and what the future of Middlebury policing looks like.