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Grades aren't the problem. Emotional illiteracy is.
In this bold and expansive episode, Davina sits down with Leroy Slanzi, Canadian principal and founder of Emotional Schools, to unpack what’s really going on in classrooms (and homes) today. From emotional regulation in 5-year-olds to burnout in school leaders, this episode is a masterclass in behavior, boundaries, and the education revolution nobody's talking about loud enough.
Leroy brings 25 years of experience and no-bullshit clarity to this conversation about emotional intelligence, cultural pushback, and practical solutions for parents and educators. If you’ve ever wondered why your kid melts down over math or why your school's still obsessed with standardized tests, this one’s for you.
🔍 In This Episode, We Talk SHIFT About:
00:01 – Introducing Leroy + the mission behind Emotional Schools
02:20 – Why school leaders resist emotional intelligence integration
04:10 – Helicopter parenting, fear-driven admin, and cultural barriers
11:00 – Teaching 5-year-olds about polyvagal theory (!?)
14:05 – The calming space model: not your typical principal’s office
16:30 – Indigenous education, land-based learning, and the medicine wheel
21:20 – Boredom, play, and the emotional consequences of disconnection
23:30 – What happens when emotionally intelligent kids go home to emotionally unavailable adults
27:00 – The collapse of speech development + rise in reactivity
30:40 – The myth that emotions have no place in academic rigor
37:15 – Why superintendents resist culture change
39:45 – How to spark intrinsic motivation in your child
42:00 – Raising emotionally intelligent kids without the tech trap
51:15 – How to support kids with low frustration tolerance
53:00 – Why mistakes are the best teachers
56:00 – Davina & Leroy reflect on parenting regret and repair
60:00 – Davina’s theory on being wired as a parent vs partner
63:00 – A reality check on what teachers really go through
65:00 – How to bring emotional intelligence to your school, district, or home
66:00 – Where to find Leroy and Emotional Schools
🧠 Connect with Leroy
🌐 Website – Programs, consulting, and free resources
📲 LinkedIn – Follow Leroy’s work
📧 Email: info@emotionalschools.com
💥 Want Your Kids to Be Emotionally Intelligent?
Start with you. A Steady Space exists to equip parents not to parent “perfectly,” but to parent from a place of regulation, resilience, and repair.
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