There's a version of you waiting on the other side of the hardest thing you've ever done. Most people never find out who that is. This episode is for the ones willing to try.

In the debut episode of What Remains, hosts Nathan Baumeister and Matt Carlson turn the mic on themselves, sharing the stories, setbacks, and personal reckonings that led them to build Okape. From elite youth soccer in Chicago and a volleyball club ranked 14th in the country, to competitive gymnastics, rock climbing, pole vaulting, and two decades in the startup trenches, this is a conversation about what physical pursuit teaches you about yourself, and how those lessons follow you into every hard thing that comes after.

They go deep on the fear that makes you quit something you love, the discipline of doing hard things in small areas so you can do hard things in ...