This episode we traveled to Clemson South Carolina to meet with Jeff Underwood, I hadn't seen Jeff in 24 years. We had a great weekend, sometimes we talk about stuff before the podcast and maybe there is more you'd like to hear but some things are better left in our circle. Jeff was the first Non Commisioned Officer I met in Okinawa and he made a lasting impression on me and I take that with me everyday of my life. Jeff was an outstanding Marine leader and great man, very appreciative for him spending the weekend with us for the podcast.