Sharks made Dr. Riley Elliott famous - but this conversation is about much more than sharks.

Riley is one of the world's leading shark scientists, a documentary presenter for Shark Week, BBC and National Geographic, and a passionate advocate for marine conservation.

In this episode he shares how curiosity, purpose and hard work took him from a student in Hamilton, New Zealand, to researching great white sharks around the world.

Whether you're interested in science, conservation, media, university or simply finding meaningful work, this conversation is full of practical advice and inspiring stories.