The city of El Paso says the county government, nearby towns owe the city hundreds of thousands of dollars for animal services. Why aren't they paying? El Paso Matters reporter Elida Perez joins the podcast to discuss her reporting on the feud over who should pay to round up and care for stray animals. Will a new shelter the county is building alleviate the problem? And why are there so many strays in El Paso in the first place? You can read Elida's reporting on El Paso city government at elpasomatters.org.