In this episode, we kick off a new ongoing series, Centered or Not, which reflects on the narratives we absorb through pop culture and how those messages shape our understanding of power, healing, and self-worth.

Today's exploration? Two iconic breakup anthems: "Before He Cheats" by Carrie Underwood and "Flowers" by Miley Cyrus.

Katie and Allie use these two anthems to explore contrasting messages about reclaiming power after a breakup... from revenge and validation to self-love and rebuilding from within. Along the way, they reflect on how similar messaging showed up in advice many of us received growing up, via religion, and in conversations about how we’re “supposed” to move on.

We Explore:

• How pop culture frames power as retaliation vs. self-connection
• The difference between inte ...