In this engaging conversation, Ben, Dave and their guest Adam Shipley explore a variety of themes including the importance of preservation, the value of hands-on skills, and the journey through law enforcement.

They share personal anecdotes, discuss the challenges of undercover work, and reflect on the evolution of their careers from local police to federal agents and international protection.

The dialogue emphasizes the significance of mentorship, the impact of childhood experiences, and the necessity of adapting to new roles in a rapidly changing world. In this conversation, Adam shares his unique journey from working in the Secret Service to transitioning into executive protection, and eventually into craftsmanship and conservation. He discusses the differences in his roles, the importance of family values, and the le ...