This epside is the first of a two part conversation with Eddie Cai and Kev Chang. Eddie is the lead designer at Pengonauts who released Star⭐Vaders earlier this year. Kev is the director of Box Dragon Studios in Sweden. Their game, As We Descend, went into Early Access at the end of May.

You can find both games on Steam.

A transcript of the episode is here: https://my.playful.work/probably-designed-eddie-cai-and-kev-chang/

Pengonauts: https://pengonauts.com/

Star⭐️Vaders: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2097570/StarVaders ...