Welcome to the prisoner2painter podcast. where we invite on all walks of life. anyone with a story to tell. we ask from childhood to where the guest is now and what their definition of success is. In todays episode we have Derek Dobies of jackson mi coming on for a second time. in the first episode we focused on what life was like building up to now. in todays episode we will focus on the now. how being mayor was, hopes for whats to come for jackson and any future plans he may have GREEN LIGHTS