What does it mean to create art in a space that's still figuring out its own boundaries? This episode of pplpod tells the remarkable story of Michael Boyer II—known to the world as Knowdaverbs and later simply Verbs—a Christian hip-hop artist from Phoenix, Arizona who navigated one of contemporary music's most tension-filled intersections. At just 12 years old, Boyer discovered his passion for rap, only to encounter resistance from the very communities that shaped him—his local churches offered no encouragement, only skepticism. Yet he persisted, carving out a vital collaborative force in a rapidly evolving musical ecosystem that was simultaneously embracing and rejecting artists like him. This deep dive explores how Boyer transformed cultural pu ...