Steven Godfrey talk to people in the college football coaching world. Then he chats with Ryan Nanni on this episode, who asks Steven which candidates will be mentioned as the up and coming trendy picks as jobs open, how the ladder of these jobs has changed, and whether last year's aggressive cycle will mean things are cooler in 2026.

This is a preview of the full episode, which is available to paid subscribers – go to phantomisland.show to sign up today. Phantom Island is presented by Homefield and produced by Michael Surber.