People Helping Nature Podcast

People Helping Nature Podcast

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Tīwaiwaka: A Movement to Heal Our Relationship with Nature (with Rob McGowan/Pā Ropata)

What if we viewed Earth not as a resource to be managed, but as our home to be cherished? In this profound conversation, Rob McGowan (Pā Ropata), leader of the TÄ«waiwaka movement and respected rongoā practitioner, reveals a transformative set of enduring principles for healing our relationship with Papatūānuku (mother earth). Rob challenges conventional thinking about environmental action, revealing how small, mindful changes in our daily lives can collectively reshape the way we interact with nature. By shifting from a "me" to a "we" worldview, we can create a future where both people and planet thrive together. This episode illuminates a pathway forward that's grounded in hope, respect for life at all scales, and the understanding that true wellbeing emerges from healing our connections - with each other and with the natural world. ā€œKa ora te whenua, ka ora te tangataā€ - when the land is well, the people are well. TÄ«waiwaka is based on these 6 core principles, which we discussed in depth during the podcast: Te Whenua, PapatuĢ„aĢ„nuku, is the source of all life. She is the mother: Caring for the whenua is the first priority. Everything else must be measured against this We are not the centre of the Universe but we are part of it: All living creatures are our brothers and sisters, and we are the potiki, the last born. We must care for them The mauri is the web of connections that sustains life: If any of those connections are weakened or broken, the mauri is less able to sustain life. The integrity of the mauri has greater priority than any individual or species Te tangata, people, are not the masters of the mauri; we are part of the mauri and embraced by it: Our role is to care for the mauri No individual person is more important than any other: Each must contribute what they have to offer and receive what they need to be well We give special care to the tiniest living creatures: Even though they are too small to be seen they are the foundation that keeps and sustains all life. Caring for them is caring for the mauri. This is the source of wellness, of sustainability šŸ‘© About Rob: Rob McGowan (Pā Ropata) is a respected rongoā practitioner and leader of the TÄ«waiwaka movement who has dedicated decades to understanding and sharing native plant knowledge and conservation principles. Through his work with kaumatua and kuia on the Whanganui River, he gained deep insights into traditional Māori knowledge and its relevance for modern conservation challenges. A recipient of the Queen's Service Medal and the Loder Cup Award, Pā is a co-founder of⁠ Tane's Tree Trust⁠, former chair of the⁠ Bay of Plenty Conservation Board⁠, and advisor to numerous government agencies, Māori tribal authorities, and rongoā Māori related initiatives. To this day, he continues to teach, speak, and advocate for approaches to conservation that honour both traditional knowledge and modern science. šŸ”—Learn more: TÄ«waiwaka’s website: ⁠www.tiwaiwaka.nz⁠ Facebook: ⁠www.facebook.com/tiwaiwakanz⁠ šŸŽ™ļøLearn more about the podcast at www.conservationamplified.org

Think Like a Predator: The Art of Effective Trapping (with John Bissell)

Can poor-quality predator control be worse than no control at all? According to one of New Zealand's leading trapping experts, the answer might surprise you. In this episode of the People Helping Nature Podcast, John Bissell, owner of ⁠Backblocks Environmental Management⁠ and National Predator Control Advisor for ⁠Save the Kiwi⁠, challenges conventional thinking about removing introduced predators. Drawing from decades of experience as a professional predator hunter and conservation specialist, John reveals why treating them as intelligent adversaries - rather than assuming they'll blindly walk into any trap - is crucial for success. Through real-world examples and trail camera observations, he demonstrates how careful attention to detail and understanding animal behaviour can dramatically improve conservation outcomes. It's not just about how many traps we set. It's about approaching each trap setup with strategy, care, and monitoring the outcomes to understand if we’re removing enough to protect our native taonga species. Here are some of the things we discussed: Why quality in predator control matters more than quantity The importance of thinking like a predator to catch one How trap-shy animals develop and why they're a growing challenge The importance of baseline monitoring and measuring outcomes How trail cameras are revealing surprising predator behaviours and intelligence Why proper trap setup and maintenance is crucial for success The transformation of Wellington's biodiversity through effective predator control Tips for community groups starting predator control projects Why combining old-world skills with new technology is crucial And much more… šŸ‘©About John: John Bissell is the owner of ⁠Backblocks Environmental Management Ltd⁠, and he is also the National Predator Control Advisor for ⁠Save the Kiwi⁠. John is adamant that removing introduced predators to protect one species, like kiwi, also benefits many other native species at place. John’s main area of mahi is in predator control and threatened species protection. His speciality is in finding and removing the one hard-to-get predator in a large landscape, and he has a good number of successful resolutions under his belt. The lessons he has learned ā€˜chasing one’, have also helped him shape new methods and tricks to help him catch more. As well as boots-on-the-ground delivery, John’s role is increasingly centred around supporting and training people and projects in this line of work, and he is equally passionate about this side of his mahi. šŸ”—Learn more: John’s website: ⁠www.bbem.co.nz⁠ John’s Instagram: ⁠www.instagram.com/nzpredatorhunter⁠ Save the Kiwi’s website: ⁠www.savethekiwi.nz⁠ šŸŽ™ļøLearn more about the podcast at www.conservationamplified.org

Dogs and Kiwi: Creating Space for Both to Thrive (with Emma Craig)

Dogs navigate the world through scent, and kiwi have an irresistibly strong smell. Add to this a kiwi's lack of a breastbone, and even the gentlest nudge from a curious dog can be fatal. So, how do we create the space for both kiwi and dogs to thrive as they increasingly share the same spaces? In this episode of the People Helping Nature Podcast, Save the Kiwi's dog specialist, Emma Craig brings practical solutions to this challenging reality. From night-time containment to specialised avoidance training for working dogs and tackling feral pack challenges, she shares how simple changes in dog management make huge differences for kiwi survival. For example, in the Whangarei Heads, local dog owners embraced these approaches which hugely contributed towards kiwi numbers soaring from just a handful to over a thousand birds. It's not about excluding dogs from the landscape - it's about empowering owners with the right tools to protect both their pets and our native wildlife as kiwi return to the places we live, work and play. Here are some of the things we discussed in this episode: Why the unique scent and anatomy of kiwi makes them especially vulnerable dogs The success story of the Whangarei Heads, where community buy-in saw kiwi numbers soar from just a handful to over 1,000 birds How kiwi avoidance training works and why it's particularly effective for working dogs The emerging challenge of feral dog populations in conservation areas Why night-time containment and walking pet dogs on a lead are critical tools for their owners The importance of providing designated dog exercise areas when restricting access to kiwi habitat How local communities can influence dog management through council bylaws Why kiwi's prolific breeding offers hope when communities take action Practical ways to balance both species' needs as kiwi return to urban areas šŸ‘©About Emma: Emma Craig works for Save the Kiwi in a dual role as both the Northland Coordinator, and the National Dog Specialist. She has over 20 years of experience working with kiwi, including being part of the Whangarei Kiwi Sanctuary team to find solutions to kiwi being killed by dogs. Her current role draws on her past experience and has a particular focus on how to work with dog owners to achieve positive results for dogs, for kiwi and other wildlife, and for the wider community. Emma lives in Northland with her family, and has the privilege of being able to hear kiwi calling from their backyard every night. šŸ”—Learn more: Website: www.savethekiwi.nz Facebook: www.facebook.com/savethekiwinewzealand Instagram: www.instagram.com/savethekiwinz LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/save-the-kiwi šŸŽ™ļøLearn more about the podcast at www.conservationamplified.org

Crowdfunding Reforestation: Uniting a Community to Buy Land (with Matthew MacDonald)

What if a small community on New Zealand's Banks Peninsula could come together to purchase and restore a piece of land to create a lasting conservation legacy for future generations? That’s exactly what the team at Le Bons Bay Conservation Trust are doing, and they’re nearly there – with 80% of their fundraising goal already achieved! Join our korero with Matthew MacDonald as we explore how they launched their crowdfunding campaign to raise funds to buy and restore land, and how their work ties into a larger movement of community-driven conservation on Banks Peninsula. Whether you’re passionate about conservation or thinking of starting your own crowdfunding campaign, this episode is full of insights and practical tips on how to bring big conservation ideas to life, even when faced with challenges. Here are some of the things we discuss in this episode: The vision behind Le Bons Bay Conservation Trust and their land restoration plan The importance of placing covenants on land for long-term protection The role of community in crowdfunding and how local people are driving conservation change on Banks Peninsula Key lessons from running a successful crowdfunding campaign How Le Bons Bay’s efforts fit into a broader conservation network on Banks Peninsula šŸ‘©About Matthew Matthew’s association with Le Bons Bay began 25 years ago when he met his wife, Jane, who has an even longer association with Le Bons. His desire to leave a lasting legacy has driven him to help begin this trust and the process of bringing this piece of land back to its former natural state. ā€œI hope that this Trust is the foundation of future work for the bay to make it an even better place for my children and anyone else who wants to enjoy this beautiful place.ā€ - Matthew MacDonald šŸ”—Learn more: Website: https://lbbct.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61558260718793 šŸŽ™ļøLearn more about the podcast at www.conservationamplified.org

From Backyard to Big Picture: Making Predator Free NZ a Reality (With Jessi Morgan)

In neighbourhoods around New Zealand, predator control is becoming as normal as recycling or composting. Jessi Morgan, CEO of Predator Free New Zealand Trust, reveals how they're turning individual actions into a nationwide movement. By equipping communities with knowledge, tools, and support, they're empowering every New Zealander to contribute to an ambitious goal: a country free of rats, stoats, and possums by 2050. From AI-powered traps to innovative toxins, Jessi shares how Kiwi ingenuity and collective action is transforming the predator control landscape. But this isn't just about removing predators – it's about creating resilient ecosystems where native species and communities can thrive together. Here are some of the things we discussed: The history of mammalian introductions by humans over time, and why ā€œkilling to saveā€ is the only way to protect NZ’s unique biodiversity. The journey from scattered community groups to a connected conservation movement. Smart traps and targeted toxins: how new tech makes predator control more effective. Why conservation needs to happen in the places where people work, live, and play - not just in remote areas. How predator-free work contributes to wider benefits beyond biodiversity, from freshwater to climate resilience. Breaking down barriers: making predator control simple and accessible for everyone. The "no IP in predator free" philosophy - why sharing knowledge freely benefits the whole movement. Why feral cats are one of our biggest conservation challenges, with devastating impacts on native wildlife. Why companion cat management needs to evolve as part of our predator-free future. Practical ways to get started with predator control in your own backyard. šŸ‘©About Jessi Jessi Morgan is the chief executive of the Predator Free New Zealand Trust. Founded in 2013, PFNZ is an independent charity that inspires and enables community groups and individuals by providing support, advice and tools to control introduced predators and create a safe space for our birds, bugs, bats and lizards. šŸ”—Learn more: Website: www.predatorfreenz.org Facebook: www.facebook.com/PFNewZealand Instagram: www.instagram.com/predatorfreenz LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/predatorfreenz šŸŽ™ļøLearn more about the podcast at www.conservationamplified.org

10th Episode Anniversary! (With Anna Wentsch & Callum Armstrong)

The last few months of building the People Helping Nature podcast have been a wild ride, to say the least! We’ve been blessed with opportunities to interview inspiring and renowned guests, and have learned so much already. So, we thought it was about time to share an update with you on how this podcast is progressing. This short update-style episode is something we’re testing and thinking of doing every 10 or 20 episodes to keep you in the loop and document our learnings over time, so please let us know what you think and if you’d like to see more of them. All feedback is welcome. Here’s what we discussed: The mission of ⁠Conservation Amplified⁠ and what we’re aiming to achieve. Two key learnings from the guests we’ve interviewed so far. Personal insights from Anna and Callum about our experience building this podcast. The changes and improvements we’re making as a result of your feedback. Upcoming Conservation Amplified developments on the horizon, including a mini-documentary and recent projects we’ve funded. šŸ‘©About Anna: Originally from Germany and self-introduced to New Zealand, Anna Wentsch is passionate about habitat protection and threatened species conservation. She has worked with Kiwi, Korora, Whio, Shorebirds and other critters, and loves supporting community environmental groups in her spare time. šŸ‘©About Callum: Callum Armstrong spends his days at the intersection of business and conservation, with one foot in both worlds. As a marketer and entrepreneur by trade, he believes that if we want to create a future where nature thrives, we need to change the culture and behaviour of humanity into one where biodiversity is valued. More info about Callum: www.callum.nz šŸŽ™ļøAbout the podcast: The People Helping Nature podcast is brought to you by Conservation Amplified, a registered New Zealand charity that’s on a mission to make biodiversity conservation mainstream. We do this by bringing a megaphone to the world of conservation by featuring people from all walks of life who are doing interesting and important things to help nature thrive. We aim to make it easy for everyone to learn, understand, take action, and feel like they’re a part of the solution. Find out more about Conservation Amplified at www.conservationamplified.org. šŸ”—Connect with us: Join our email list: ⁠www.conservationamplified.org/podcast⁠ YouTube: ⁠www.youtube.com/@ConservationAmplifiedNZ⁠ Facebook: ⁠www.facebook.com/conservationamplified⁠ Instagram: ⁠www.instagram.com/conservationamplified⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠www.linkedin.com/company/conservation-amplified⁠

From Endangered to Everywhere: Reimagining Kiwi Conservation (With Michelle Impey)

What if every New Zealander could encounter a kiwi in the wild? Michelle Impey, CEO of Save the Kiwi, shares how this innovative organisation is working to make this vision a reality throughout Aotearoa New Zealand. By empowering community-led initiatives, Save the Kiwi supports and amplifies grassroots conservation work. From predator control to responsible pet ownership and leading translocations, they're tackling the challenges facing kiwi on a wide range of fronts. But it's not just about protecting our national bird. Michelle reveals how their work creates a ripple effect, benefiting a wide range of native species and entire ecosystems as a result. Join us as we explore Save the Kiwi's ambitious mission to bring kiwi "from endangered to everywhere", and discover how every New Zealander can play a part in weaving conservation into the fabric of our society. Here are some of the things we discussed: The rapid decline of kiwi numbers since human arrival. How the threat of 95% chick mortality in areas without predator control sparked the National Kiwi Recovery Programme. The evolution of Save the Kiwi from a small initiative to the nationwide driver of kiwi conservation. The rise of community-led kiwi conservation and predator control to help protect our national icon from further decline. The success of kiwi translocations and how they are shaping future approaches. Michelle’s vision for the future of kiwi conservation in Aotearoa New Zealand. And much more... šŸ‘©About Michelle: For more than 18 years, Michelle Impey has been the CEO of Save the Kiwi, an organisation that’s on a mission to reverse the decline of New Zealand’s kiwi populations. Save the Kiwi works alongside iwi, conservation groups, and the Department of Conservation to raise awareness about the plight of the kiwi, how important the species is to New Zealand’s national identity, and what Kiwis can do to help their namesake. During her 18 years in this role, Michelle has witnessed the explosive growth of iwi- and community-led kiwi conservation initiatives which have in turn created more kiwi-safe habitat all over the country and a greater collective desire for kiwi to return to places where they once thrived. Michelle works tirelessly to ensure kiwi remain at the forefront of New Zealand's consciousness, reminding everyone around her that one person taking small action can lead to monumental change. šŸ”—Learn more: Website: www.savethekiwi.nz Facebook: www.facebook.com/savethekiwinewzealand Instagram: www.instagram.com/savethekiwinz LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/save-the-kiwi šŸŽ™ļøLearn more about the podcast at www.conservationamplified.org

Conservation's Secret Weapon: The Power of Community Collaboration (With Michelle Elborn)

What if we could amplify the impact of community conservation efforts across an entire region? Michelle Elborn, CEO of Bay Conservation Alliance (BCA), shares how this innovative umbrella organisation is doing just that in New Zealand's Bay of Plenty. Founded by community, for community, BCA supports and grows the capability of local conservation groups. From helping with admin to facilitating funding applications and beyond, BCA enables volunteers to focus on their passion - hands-on conservation work. But it's not just about operational support. By uniting diverse groups, BCA creates a powerful collective voice for nature. This collaborative approach is yielding impressive results, such as expanding wildlife habitats, bringing individual community efforts together for larger outcomes, and training the next generation of conservation leaders. Here are some of the things we discussed: The origin story of Bay Conservation Alliance and its mission to empower community initiatives. The power of collective action in conservation and BCA’s role in amplifying and uniting local efforts. Why community identity matters and how BCA balances individual group needs with achieving greater outcomes as a region. Key challenges in conservation such as funding and administration. How BCA develops overarching relationships with funders and larger stakeholders (such as DoC and Regional Council) to make it easier for everyone involved. The importance of viewing biodiversity as an investment rather than a cost. How businesses can get involved in supporting local conservation efforts. Michelle's vision for a future where predators are removed from Aotearoa and conservation focuses on positive outcomes. Why finding your personal "conservation superpower" is crucial for making a difference. The intergenerational aspect of conservation and why long-term planning is essential. How people can get involved with BCA and support conservation in the Bay of Plenty. And much more… šŸ‘©About Michelle: Michelle Elborn has a long-standing passion for the environment. Originally from the UK and having completed a master’s degree in Conservation and Recreation Management, she emigrated to Aotearoa in 2001 and was delighted to initially work for the Department of Conservation. Moving on to Tauranga City Council, she spent the next decade working across sustainability, community development, strategy and communications. She is now very excited to be leading Bay Conservation Alliance, which presents a huge opportunity to develop a new model for community-led conservation. šŸ”—Learn more: BCA’s website: www.bayconservation.nz BCA’s Facebook: www.facebook.com/bayconservation BCA’s Instagram: www.instagram.com/bay_conservation_alliance BCA’s LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/bay-conservation-alliance1 šŸŽ™ļøLearn more about the podcast at www.conservationamplified.org

Could Fenced Megasanctuaries End Extinction In NZ’s Forests? (With Jim Lynch)

Imagine a future where the threat of extinction for New Zealand's forest species is eliminated... forever. Now imagine achieving this for less than 30 cents per person per week! This isn't just a conservationist's dream – it's a well-researched proposal that could revolutionise our approach to conservation. At the heart of this vision is Jim Lynch, co-founder of the wildly successful Zealandia fenced ecosanctuary in Wellington's Karori Valley. Building on the triumphs and lessons of Zealandia, Jim has developed an ambitious new concept: a network of ten fenced megasanctuaries, each spanning 3000-5000 hectares, strategically placed around the country. These megasanctuaries wouldn't stand alone. Each would be surrounded by intensively managed 'halo zones', creating a powerful buffer against predators and other threats. This isn't just an idea scribbled on a napkin, either. It’s backed by thorough costings and engineering studies in the Wainuiomata-Puketahā water collection area. Could this be the feasible approach to safeguarding our unique flora and fauna? How would we bring it to life? And what would it cost? Join us as we dive deep into this bold vision with Jim Lynch, exploring how this approach could reshape the future of conservation in Aotearoa New Zealand. Here are some of the things we discussed: Jim’s journey from a ā€˜sleeping greenie’ to a full-blown conservationist. How Zealandia ecosanctuary started and why the Natural Wellington plan was so important. The ecological transformation Wellington has experienced over the last few decades – from a ā€˜biological cot case’ to a green city of abundance and reforestation. The events that led Jim to pursue the fence model. The proposed strategy of scaling up Zealandia’s success with fenced megasanctuaries. Why the ā€˜nursery and halo’ model is so important. Why fencing valleys is the most efficient way to do it. Bringing conservation and business (a viable source of income) together to try and create a forever-model. The one-off capital and ongoing management costs of these sanctuaries. The policy changes that would be needed to make this happen. What Aotearoa NZ would look like in 50 years if we brought this to life. šŸ‘©About Jim: Jim Lynch, co-founder of Zealandia Ecosanctuary, has been a driving force in New Zealand conservation since the 1990s. His authored plan "Natural Wellington" aimed to restore birdlife to the city, leading to the creation of Zealandia. Jim's innovative approach combines his passion for conservation with his expertise in business and systems design, resulting in effective, large-scale conservation strategies. His work earned him the Queen's Service Medal (QSM) for conservation services in 2001, along with two Wellington City civic awards. šŸ”—Learn more: Jim’s website: www.jameslynch.org Zealandia Ecosanctuary: www.visitzealandia.com šŸŽ™ļøLearn more about the podcast at www.conservationamplified.org

Landowners Uniting To Bring Kiwi Back To Their Communities (With Matu Booth)

Landscape-scale conservation projects are a key part of Aotearoa New Zealand’s biodiversity future. They connect the many localised community efforts, passionate landowners and patches of remnant forest to achieve much wider-reaching conservation outcomes. When we unite these smaller, seperate activities into catchment-wide, inclusive initiatives, the possibilities are endless… Enter: ⁠The Forest Bridge Trust⁠ (TFBT). The vision for TFBT started in 2013 when founders Kevin and Gill Adshead reintroduced kiwi to their family farm in Glorit, Rodney. They quickly realised that for these flightless birds to thrive, they would require a massive 10,000-hectare predator-controlled habitat. This was no small feat, but Kevin and Gill had an even grander vision. They dreamed of the west coast kiwi on their farm eventually being able to reconnect with their counterparts in Tāwharanui Regional Park on the east coast. To make this happen, they would need to protect at least 54,000 hectares of land to create interconnected forest corridors. Most of this land is privately owned by farmers, mana whenua and lifestyle blocks, which requires a different approach to doing conservation on public land. This podcast episode explores the success story of TFBT and what it’s like to do large-scale conservation on private land. Here are some of the things we discussed: The evolution of TFBT from an ambitious dream into a team of 26 people with immense community support. The phenomenal impact that 5 years of ⁠Jobs For Nature⁠ funding via ⁠Save The Kiwi⁠ had on accelerating their vision. How kiwi are such a great flagship species to inspire action. Why it’s so important to meet people on their level and appeal to their priorities and interests rather than ā€˜telling’ them what they need to do. The importance of focusing on biodiversity gains. How conservation brings the community together. Why lasting conservation success needs to start with igniting curiosity. And so much more… šŸ‘©About Matu: Matu Booth is the Operations Manager for ⁠The Forest Bridge Trust⁠. Since the beginning of his conservation career in 2000, Matu has also worked with Zealandia⁠ and managed the ⁠Nga Manu Nature Reserve⁠. He's been involved in the translocation of many native birds, tuatara and frogs, and has run education and engagement programmes. As Matu’s career has progressed, he has gained a growing appreciation for the importance of encouraging curiosity to get more people passionate about conservation. His team believes that sustaining large-scale restoration initiatives is as much a social change movement as it is a conservation project. šŸ”—Learn more about TFBT: ⁠www.theforestbridgetrust.org.nz⁠ šŸŽ™ļøLearn more about the podcast at www.conservationamplified.org
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