Marc Laynes has spent 37 seasons guiding on the Fraser River, one of the world's only waterways where you can catch a white sturgeon. He started his business with handwritten letters and a VHS tape mailed to English travel agents before the internet existed, and he has spent decades chasing a legendary 14-foot fish he has never managed to land.

In this conversation, Marc and Atlee talk about what it means to turn a childhood obsession into a career, the surprisingly gentle bite of a 1,000-pound fish, and the kind of persistence that carries someone through 37 seasons of getting up before dawn. If you've ever wondered what it looks like to do exactly what you were built for, this is that story.

Topics covered: white sturgeon biology and behaviour, building a guiding business from scratch, how the Fraser River became a w ...