This week Erika and Laura talk with Elle Flowers about her experiences through motherhood. Becoming a mom through foster care, the bittersweet experience of her first placement being reunified and fostering the boys who ended up staying with her forever. Her journey shows the real truths of being a foster mom, from the frustrations and heartbreak to the unimaginable love for another mom's child.

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