Messy Thoughts

Messy Thoughts

di BJ Burgess & LeBron Huggins
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"I Used to Dance!! (with Colton Dowling)" - Messy Thoughts 37
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MESSY THOUGHTS 37. Stand-up comedian, writer, and actor Colton Dowling (Some of This Is Bad) pulls up to the Messy Thoughts studio — and within about ninety seconds he's already announced he's uncomfortable and asked if this is "a card." BJ and LeBron take that as a personal challenge, and what follows is one of the most gloriously derailed hours we've recorded. We open on BBL recovery times and the horror of everything going straight to your ass, before Colton gets into whether you're legally allowed to fire your therapist (and whether the problem is the therapist or… you). BJ steers us into the naked power-walker of downtown Austin, LeBron fights for the sanctity of clapping at the end of a movie, and somewhere in there Colton reveals the PF Chang's interview that quietly ended his modeling career. The back half goes fully off the rails: a movie tangent where the three of us basically just name films we half-remember and describe the plots wrong, a Players Club recap that raises more questions than it answers, a heated referendum on whether LA is fake, and the sacred bond between a mom and her lipstick mirror-notes. Colton also opens up about the Paris he'd blocked out for twelve years and why, these days, he "doesn't dance anymore." It gets real, it gets stupid, it gets H-E-B-reverent. BJ, LeBron, and Colton close it out with plans to flee to Spain and one lingering question about Katy Perry in space. The thoughts are messy. The bottoms are not. 🎙️ Special guest: Colton Dowling ▶️ Podcast: Some of This Is Bad 📸 IG: @coltondowling // @someofthisisbad ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🔔 New episodes of Messy Thoughts with BJ & LeBron — subscribe & hit the bell 🎧 Also on Apple Podcasts & Spotify 📱 Follow for clips & chaos ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ #MessyThoughts #ColtonDowling #SomeOfThisIsBad #ComedyPodcast #QueerPodcast
"The Bald & The Beautiful (Dillion's Back!)" - Messy Thoughts 36
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MESSY THOUGHTS 36. Dillion Kordell is BACK — bald, 30, and cussing out his comment section. 💅🏾 The girls are messy this week. Returning guest and Dillion Kordell Show host Dillion Kordell pulls up to break down his new bald-and-bold era, the art of arguing with racists in your comments, and why the internet is way more fun in your head than it actually is. BJ and LeBron get into everything from friend-group breakups and "love offline" to the manosphere, the "gayosphere," Pride history, and being unapologetically Black in white gay spaces. It gets real, it gets read-you-for-filth funny, and yes — BJ comes out as pansexual live on the mic (shout out to trigonometry). In this episode: – Dillion's bald glow-up and turning 30 – Clapping back at hateful comments (and living for the engagement) – The "tops in air quotes" debate + BJ's "power verse" declaration – Bringing a whole duffel bag to the club, and the great "Sigourney Weaver vs. Harriet Tubman" mix-up – Why you should NEVER date inside your friend group (a balcony story) – Monét exchange & Andy, canceled weddings, and the case for "love offline" – Soft launches, not posting your partner, and people who are always watching – Millennials vs. Gen Z, weaponized social media, and the Apple Music/Spotify wars – The manosphere, the "gayosphere," and hyper-masculinity in queer spaces – Pride Month, LGBTQ+ history, and why the L comes first – Race, segregated gay parties, and the pitch for "LeBron Undercover" – Frolic Weekend, being around your people, and Lift Every Voice – Whitney, Clive Davis, and why nobody at this table is getting in a helicopter New episodes every week. This is Messy Thoughts — where the thoughts are messy and the bottoms are not. 🧼 Guest: Dillion Kordell — The Dillion Kordell Show ▶️ [@dillionkordellshow] Follow Messy Thoughts 🌐 messythoughts.com 📩 messythoughtspod@gmail.com Subscribe + turn on notifications so you never miss a mess. ⚠️ Mature content: explicit language + adult themes. 18+. #MessyThoughts #BlackGayPodcast #QueerPodcast #LGBTQPodcast #austinpodcast
"Diamonds Are Forever with Diamond Dior Davenport" - Messy Thoughts 35
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MESSY THOUGHTS 35. Austin drag icon Diamond Dior Davenport joins BJ and LeBron for one of the most personal, chaotic, and genuinely moving episodes yet. Diamond breaks down the full behind-the-scenes chaos of the Majestic Ball — her 35-minute Beyoncé Homecoming tribute set — from the costume that didn't fit five days before showtime to rehearsing stage blocking in the street with duct tape. She also opens up about navigating grief, the importance of therapy, working a 9-to-5 while running a full drag career, and the music journey that started with loss and ended with an eight-song album. We hear the full story of the bad producer who lost her vocal stems, how Julian changed everything, and why her new song might drop before Pride is over. Plus: The Cookout makes its Davenport edition debut — and Kennedy Davenport ends up exactly where you'd expect. Happy Pride, y'all. This one hits different. CATCH Messy Thoughts and GET TICKETS for "Some of this is Live" on June 25 at 8PM at The Creek & The Cave. 🎙️ Hosted by BJ Burgess & LeBron Huggins 🎤 Guest: Diamond Dior Davenport | @diamonddiordavenport (verify handle before posting) 📍 Austin, TX Stream Diamond's album "Emotions of a Boss" — and keep an ear out for her new track dropping soon. This episode is brought to you by Createscape — Austin's queer-owned co-working space in East Austin. Open 24/7, private meeting rooms, open seating, coffee, and good vibes. Mention Messy Thoughts for a FREE day pass. www.createscapework.co 📲 Follow us: messythoughts.com | @messythoughtspod 💌 Contact: messythoughtspod@gmail.com 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & everywhere you get podcasts Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins, Produced by Keller Davis.
"Food Talk (DO YOU WANT A REVOLUTION) with Rell Rugely" - Messy Thoughts 34
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MESSY THOUGHTS 34. BJ and LeBron finally run the tapes on how they actually met Austin food creator Rell Rugely (@RellEatsWorld) — fully nude, fully confident, broad daylight, on a boat at Splash. From there it only gets messier: they pitch an all-Black takeover boat for next year's Pride season ("BABS 2027"), spiral into a 2000s R&B nostalgia tour that nobody asked for, and debate whether Interview with the Vampire is the gayest show on Netflix. Then Rell gets into it for real — building an Austin food page from nothing, the actual math behind what makes a TikTok video pop off, why her comments are filtered, the PR-freebie hustle that almost wasn't worth it, and what it took to finally quit her day job and go full-time. We get into production, perfectionism, the real cost of content creation, her familiar (boyfriend) Tyler, and the made-up words — "delishante," "diabetical" — that somehow caught on with her followers. We close it all out with a full round of The Cookout: Terry Black's vs. HEB Barbecue, Juan in a Million vs. Whip My Soul, Whataburger vs. In-N-Out, and the most heated debate of the episode — is it pecan, or is it PEcan? This is our first Cancer guest. Groundbreaking. 🍽️ Follow Rel: @RellEatsWorld on Instagram & TikTok 🖤 All our socials: MessyThoughts.com 📧 Email us: messythoughtspod@gmail.com 💬 Leave a comment — we read every single one (eventually, after we stop drafting the clapback) #MessyThoughts #BlackGayPodcast #AustinTX #RellEatsWorld #ATXFoodie #BlackCreators #QueerPodcast #TalkShowPodcast #ContentCreator #TheCookoutGame #AustinPodcast #BlackOwnedAustin #PodcastClips #ZodiacTalk #GayPodcast
"Glass Closets & Coming Out Stories" - Messy Thoughts 33
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MESSY THOUGHTS 33. 🏳️‍🌈 THE COMING OUT EPISODE 🏳️‍🌈 It's Pride Month, and we're finally doing the episode we've been saving since the very beginning. BJ and LeBron are joined by Daddy Keller for the most personal Messy Thoughts yet — our coming out stories, told in full for the first time. We get into all of it: glass closets, growing up in church, asking for dolls and getting silence, the friend who came out to BJ while he was trying to come out to her, the Mother's Day announcement that got "backpedaled," and the time Facebook outed LeBron to his entire family overnight (we have a vendetta against Zuckerberg to this day). But first — BJ's birthday weekend recap, why June Geminis can't be trusted, our Euphoria finale feelings, and a detour into AI data centers and why we're living on the most absurd timeline. Then it gets real. LeBron drops a coming out history lesson (it started with debutantes?!), and we each share our stories — the fear, the family reactions, the rough months, the parents who came around, and the ones still on the journey. Plus: what to actually say if your kid comes out to you, why "just come out" is easier said than done, and why coming out is never just a one-time thing. Whether you're out, on your way, or supporting someone who is — this one's for you. 💛 💬 SHARE YOUR COMING OUT STORY in the comments — we want to hear it. How did it go? Who showed up for you? What would you tell your younger self? MESSY THOUGHTS SOCIAL: 🌐 Website: www.MessyThoughts.com 📱 YouTube: [Subscribe for more episodes] 💬 TikTok | Instagram @MessyThoughtsPod New episodes every week. Where the thoughts are messy and the bottoms are not. 🧼 Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins. Produced by Keller Davis. #ComingOut #ComingOutStories #PrideMonth #Pride2026 #LGBTQ #QueerPodcast #GayPodcast #Pride #LGBTQPodcast #QueerStories #BlackQueerPodcast #AustinPodcast #ComingOutStory #LoveIsLove #MessyThoughts
"Church Ladies at the Function with Jeremy A. Teel" - Messy Thoughts 32
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Get ready for some REAL conversation! This week we're sitting down with the fabulous Jeremy A. Teel—a true community staple and one of the first people our host met when moving to Austin. Jeremy's a powerhouse in the queer scene, hosting legendary events like House of Soul and Chunk Party while championing the bears and fat boys community that often gets sidelined. In this episode, we dive DEEP into: Jeremy's iconic "Oh Hey with Me Jeremy" car video series that started it all The leather and kink world—who knew Jeremy was a full gear enthusiast? The messy TRUTH about corporate pride (yes, we're talking about those rainbow Indeed logos) How to actually get involved in Pride planning and stay on boards to keep organizations accountable Plugging Jeremy's incredible events: House of Soul (Houston & Austin) and Chunk Party Why community is everything and how one person CAN make a difference Jeremy shares real, unfiltered wisdom about hosting parties, building community, and never waiting around for someone else to create the space you need. He's the host you want at every event and the friend you need in the LGBTQ+ community. FIND JEREMY ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @JeremyATeel on everything (Instagram, TikTok, etc.) Email: JeremyATeel@gmail.com MESSY THOUGHTS SOCIAL: 🌐 Website: MessyThoughts.com 📱 YouTube: [Subscribe for more episodes] 💬 TikTok | Instagram | Spotify: @MessyThoughtsPod #GayPodcast #BlackPodcast #AustinTX #HoustonTX #PartyProducer #JeremyTeel #MessyThoughts
"Cancellation (A Messy Review)" - Messy Thoughts 31
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MESSY THOUGHTS 31. This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron are getting into the messy, complicated, and sometimes hilarious world of cancel culture. Before diving into the main topic, they kick things off with ASMR sips, a Find My Friends trail run-in, the idea of a Black queer walk/run club in Austin, San Antonio Black Pride, Caffeine Daddy, and a very necessary summer sunscreen PSA. Then LeBron’s Corner takes over with a chaotic conversation about Spirit Airlines, budget flights, James Charles, and what actually counts as being “cancelled.” From celebrity apologies and PR cleanups to past mistakes, public accountability, and who deserves a second chance, the conversation goes all over the place — in the best way. The hosts talk Kanye West, Ellen DeGeneres, Chrissy Teigen, Drag Race controversies, Sherry Pie, Phi Phi O’Hara, James Ross/Tyra Sanchez, DaBaby, Beyoncé’s privacy, Michael Jackson’s complicated legacy, and how people participate in cancel culture themselves. It’s messy, funny, uncomfortable, honest, and exactly the kind of conversation that makes you ask: who’s really cancelled, who just went quiet for four months, and who should have never opened their mouth in the first place? #GayPodcast #BlackPodcast #LGBT #MessyThoughts #CancelCulture
"Respect Your Elders? Absolutely Not" - Messy Thoughts 29
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MESSY THOUGHTS 29. Welcome back to Messy Thoughts! This week, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, stan culture, internet chaos, and “hills we’re willing to die on” all collide in one gloriously messy episode. BJ and LeBron spiral from AI-generated celebrity voices and TikTok memes into a full-blown celebration of Rihanna’s legendary hit catalog, the evolution of fan bases, and the golden age of MySpace customization. The conversation takes a deeper turn when they debate Billie Eilish’s controversial comments about eating meat and whether respecting your elders should really be unconditional. From rude club encounters with older gays to cult leaders, social media addiction, cell phones ruining society, and Ticketmaster’s bot problem, absolutely nothing is safe from discussion this week. Plus: Gaga’s “Runway,” YouTube comment wars, phone-call etiquette, Apple Watch peer pressure, and why the internet has made everyone way too comfortable in comment sections. As always, the thoughts are messy… but the bottoms are not. #MessyThoughts #BlackPodcast #GayPodcast #LGBT #PopCulture
"Y'all remember masks, protest, and 2020?" - Messy Thoughts 28
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MESSY THOUGHTS 28. This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron are taking a messy, funny, and surprisingly reflective trip back to 2020 — the year of quarantine, masks, Zoom happy hours, six-feet-apart stickers, empty Austin streets, PPP loans, unemployment chaos, cancelled birthday plans, and everybody suddenly becoming very aware of who was in their “pod.” Before the time machine really gets going, the episode kicks off with Drag Race finale thoughts, Myki Meeks' win, Nini Coco’s performance, All Stars 11 excitement, and a very important public service announcement: maybe ask people who they voted for before you hook up with them. Then the conversation turns deeper as BJ and LeBron reflect on the murder of George Floyd, the rise of Black Lives Matter protests, Blackout Tuesday, performative allyship, protest fears, and how 2020 created a rare moment where people had the time, attention, and collective outrage to actually respond. They also revisit the weird little details we’ve all half-blocked out: birthday parties alone, masks under noses, COVID tests, vaccines, work-from-home setups, looting your office supplies when the company told you to “take what you need,” Austin bars that didn’t survive the pandemic, and the strange intimacy of pandemic friend groups. To close things out, LeBron responds to a recent racist video involving a Houston police officer and delivers a pointed reminder about racism, accountability, and believing people when they show you who they are. Messy, nostalgic, political, chaotic, and deeply 2020 — this episode asks: what did we learn, what did we forget, and why does everything still feel so messy? Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins. Produced by Keller Davis. www.messythoughts.com #MessyThoughts #GayPodcast #BlackPodcast #QueerVoices #Pandemic
"Coachella: Beauty & the BBC?!?!" - Messy Thoughts 27
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MESSY THOUGHTS 27. BJ and LeBron are back after a little break, and they’ve got a lot to catch up on. The episode kicks off with some very Messy Thoughts energy as BJ declares that 2026 is officially “the year of the top,” which leads into a hilarious and unfiltered conversation about topping, bottoming, labels, and dating dynamics. Then the boys recap their recent trip to Treefort and Drag Fort in Boise, including their thoughts on Idaho, the festival vibe, drag kings, their live podcast experience, and how the whole trip ended up being better than expected. From there, things get even messier with a story from Hippie Hollow in Austin that turns into a conversation about boundaries, fetishization, and consent after a truly wild encounter involving a man with “I Love BBC” tattooed on his thigh. To close things out, LeBron gives a full Coachella recap — from camping and porta-potties to crowd behavior, festival fashion, standout performances, and why Karol G and Becky G delivered one of the most powerful moments of the weekend. If you love queer culture, messy stories, festival recaps, and funny, honest conversation, this episode is for you. Like, comment, and subscribe — and let us know: would you survive Hippie Hollow or Coachella camping?
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