Special Guest Tina Quinn from Fourth Estate talks about the story behind the story. Her piece was published on Crikey yesterday under the headline: 'Insiders reveal the real story behind Karl Stefanovic, a monster of Nine's own making.'

Tina tells us how she managed to get people to talk on the record and if it was her intention to write the angle of the story that ended up being published.

Tash asks Tina about her process to write the story, while Wade suggests that commercial publishers need to chase attention and clicks  ...