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Guest: Ab Khurana — Sales Executive
Based: Nomadic
Ab Khurana treats his entire life as a series of experiments, including the experiment of having a normal life. Two years ago, the timing was right to settle, so he signed a lease in San Diego, built a routine, joined sports leagues, dated normally—all the standard stuff. Then, two years later, the timing was right to leave, so he left. Some people would call that a success. Some would call it a failure. Ab just calls it valuable experience.
He doesn't theorise about what he wants. He runs experiments and observes the results. His framework: try ten things, you'll love three, hate three, and feel neutral about four. But only once you've actually tried them, not just imagined them, will you know what to orient your life around. San Diego taught him he's definitely a beach and sun person. That making new friends as an adult matters to him. That two years of routine felt good but not complete.
Now he's pursuing the specific things his twelve-year-old self always wanted to do whilst the window is still open. Machu Picchu, check. Erupting volcano in Guatemala, check. Scuba diving certification despite being scared of water, check. Next up: the Galapagos Islands, a safari in Africa, a month on a farm with WWOOF making things with his hands instead of pushing pixels. And eventually, being a tourist in India, the country where he spent his first thirteen years but hasn't visited since.
This is a masterclass in building self-knowledge through empirical living. When you stop predicting how you'll feel and start collecting actual evidence, you stop wondering what you've missed and start knowing what matters. The tetherball metaphor applies: you can stray as far as you want, but you're still tethered to something solid—whether that's good parents, close friends, or the three things you've discovered you genuinely love. Trust your inner fire. It's unique to you, and that's the point.
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction
00:41 Guest introduction
02:05 Two and a half years nomadic in two stints
03:33 San Diego experiment, lease and routine
05:04 Why he left, timing and freedom before commitments
06:38 Long-term relationships and family considerations
07:56 Twelve-year-old dreams and pursuing new experiences
09:18 Maslow's hierarchy of needs discussion
10:05 Fulfilling relationship needs through community
12:34 Nomads more open and untethered from roles
13:29 Only getting one layer deep, something missing
14:20 Strengthening existing relationships
15:23 Electron metaphor, travellers vs settled people
16:57 Hopping on friends' trips, maintaining connections
18:21 US vs Europe vacation time, 15 days vs 35 days
19:42 Tetherball metaphor, being grounded whilst travelling
21:48 Good parents as foundation, unconditional love
23:41 Ten experiments framework, love 3, hate 3, neutral 4
24:58 Self-awareness through experimentation
25:54 Ibi's grounding, music and fire metaphor
28:11 Inner fire, comparing to others leads to analysis paralysis
Remaining timestamps are in the full write-up linked below.
Full write-up and transcript: https://www.ibimalik.com/podcast/ab-khurana
Watch: https://youtu.be/Tv0I1FYH2sI