Lauren and Christine ask why biopics and biographies of musicians and other celebrities are so hard to do well, what we really want when we want to “know” a celebrity through a film or book, and why everyone is staring so adoringly at Bob Dylan all the time.

Check out our book recommendations!

Lauren Sklaroff, Red Hot Mama

https://a.co/d/hVAmXZU

Harvey Cohen, Duke Ellington's America

https://a.co/d/8Dcgv1O

Nick Tosches, Hellfire

https://a.co/d/1DgSXz3