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Plan the Truth Before You Plan the Fun | Max Barker Interview Pt. 4

The Great Commission Toolkit | Excellerate Ministries di Benjamin Chase Williams
S3 ยท E4
1 set 2026
25:29

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How do you keep a room full of kids engaged, excited, and ready to listen?

In this episode of The Great Commission Toolkit, Chase Williams sits down again with Max Barker from Camp CoBeAc to talk about one of Max's strengths: leading from the platform.

Whether you're leading a VBS, children's church, camp service, youth event, or family program, there will be moments when things don't go according to plan. You may suddenly need to fill five minutes, wake up a tired room, transition from something fun to spiritual truth, or end an activity before you lose everyone's attention.

That's why Max recommends developing a "bag of tricks"โ€”games, attention-getters, transitions, and other tools you can pull out whenever you need them.

In this episode, we talk about:

๐ŸŽ’ How to develop your own "bag of tricks"

๐ŸŽฎ No-prop games you can use almost anywhere

โšก How to bring energy into a tired room

๐ŸŽค Using vocal inflection to keep kids engaged

๐Ÿ˜‚ Getting kids, teens, and even parents involved

๐Ÿ™Œ How to transition naturally from fun to spiritual truth

๐ŸŽฏ Why everything should be done with intentionality

๐Ÿ›‘ How to know when it's time to end a game or activity

๐Ÿ“ˆ Why you should end something while it's still at its peak

๐Ÿ˜ฌ What to do when something doesn't work from the platform

๐Ÿ‘€ How leading teens differs from leading children

One of the biggest principles in this conversation is that you don't have to be naturally gifted to become better at leading kids.

Build your bag of tricks. Practice. Watch yourself on video. Learn what works. Learn from what doesn't. And keep growing.

Most importantly, be intentional.

The fun, games, songs, and excitement aren't the ultimate goal. Use them intentionally to engage kids and prepare them to hear the truth of God's Word.

Whether you're a children's pastor, youth pastor, VBS director, camp worker, Sunday School teacher, or volunteer, we hope this episode gives you practical tools you can use the next time you step in front of a group.

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