In a perfect world, all women would lift each other up and encourage one another to move up on the ladder of success. However, that is not always the case. Meet “Ice Queens” - women, who unfortunately, put other women down. Our guest today Rev. Bethany Ruhl - an ordained minister in the United Church of Christ and a board certified chaplain- talks about this term that she has coined and her experiences encountering Ice Queens, how to heal from the trauma of dealing with one and how we as women can lift each other up.