The dominant framework for measuring AI's impact on jobs may be asking the wrong question entirely.

In this episode, Ben sits down with Isabella Loaiza, economist and researcher at MIT, to challenge some of the most widely accepted assumptions in the AI and work debate. From the concept of "exposure" to the narrative of an incoming white-collar bloodbath, Isabella makes the case we're missing a big part of the picture around AI.

At the center of the conversation is EPOCH, a framework Isabella developed with her coauthor Roberto to capture the human capabilities that AI is least equipped to replace: Empathy, Presence, Opinion, Creativity, and Hope.

Topics covered:

• Why the "white collar bloodbath" narrative gets AI wrong
• The difference between automation and augmentation
• Why "exposure ...