⁠In this episode we have a conversation with Justin's long time band mate Kiefer. We discuss his beginnings, how he learned to play the many instruments he uses in Temporal Displacement and much more. The intro and outro is a little taste of a song that will be on the forthcoming album.

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Podcast Art by Paul Voorhees @ Voorhees Arts. Find him on Facebook at Facebook.com/Voorheesarts and on Instagram @ Voorheesarts

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