On waking up, grief as a practice, and finding wonder in a collapsing world. With Bob Bharij, hosted by Amel Murphy

What if the way forward isn't to imagine a better future yet, but to make space for grief first?

Bob Bharij is the co-founder of Foundation for Change, where he has spent more than two decades working with people recovering from addiction, trauma and social exclusion. This conversation asks what that work has to teach us about living through today's overlapping crises.

Amel and Bob reflect on the metacrisis, climate grief, trauma, capitalism, patriarchy and the importance of understanding the past before trying to create the future. They discuss waking up to ourselves through education, curiosity and embodied awareness, and why learning to recognise our body's signals may be the fi ...