After more than 30 years in youth ministry, what would you do differently?

In this episode of Beyond the Numbers, Josh Griffin joins me to talk honestly about youth ministry, teaching students, leadership mistakes, difficult conversations, building teams, and why you might not be too old to serve students.

Josh has spent more than three decades serving in youth ministry, from being an intern to leading in large churches, and continues to serve students today as a junior high pastor.

We talk about:

• How to keep students engaged without watering down the message

• Why trying to impress people can hurt your teaching

• The importance of object lessons and memorable visuals

• Why “everything is the message” in youth ministry

• A mistake Josh is still trying to correct after decades in ministry