Dr. Cath Goulding has been a constant presence in our Education, Genocide, Liberation course. She joins the podcast to share intimate and haunting stories of education within the concentration camps in which the U.S. incarcerated more than 120,000 people. In this conversation with hosts "Bosco" and "Sarah," Cath weaves narratives of her mother being born in one of these camps with an urgent call to teach this history capaciously. The episode also engages Cath's experiences visiting these camps to explore the possibilities born of place-based education and public pedagogy.