#073- Do We Actually Know What It Means to Be Inclusive? with Justin Haegele

In this conversation, Dr. Justin Haegele and Brendan Aylward explore the complexities of inclusion in adaptive physical education and fitness. They discuss personal experiences that shaped their understanding of inclusion, the evolution of language used in the field, and the challenges faced in creating meaningful experiences for individuals with disabilities. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of listening to disabled voices, the need for comprehensive training for educators, and the balance between providing inclusive environments while recognizing individual needs. They discuss the challenges of making promises of inclusion, the need for qualitative insights over quantitative metrics, and the role of positive experiences in physical education in fostering lifelong physical activity.

00:00 Introduction and Personal Background

02:27 The Evolution of Inclusion Perspectives

13:16 Challenges in Adaptive Physical Education

18:45 Creating Meaningful Experiences in Fitness

24:51 Assessing Experience Beyond Performance

32:40 The Role of Physical Education in Lifelong Activity

38:42 Language and Perception of Disability

48:17 Engaging Disabled Voices in Fitness Design