Sean Heath joins me for a raw, honest and surprisingly funny conversation about what it really means to be underestimated.

You may know Sean from The Summit UK, but this episode goes far beyond the mountain.

We talk about how he ended up on the show, what it was like being judged before people really knew him, and the reality of pushing himself through one of the toughest experiences of his life. But we also get into the things that matter far more than TV.

Sean opens up about discovering his identity at a young age, the darker side of being groomed, the grief of losing family members in quick succession, the toll that took on his mental health, and what rebuilding life has looked like since.

This is a conversation about resilience, loss, confidence, humour, survival and learning to back yourself when othe ...