Marianne Bachynski spent decades as a CIO in financial services, navigating transformation, innovation under pressure, and environments that would break most leaders. Her secret? She didn't just survive uncertainty. She trained for it. In this episode, Marianne and Jackson unpack what it really means to be "fit for uncertainty," why planning for perfection is one of the most dangerous things a leader can do, and the mindset shifts that separate leaders who thrive from those who just survive.

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0:00 - Introduction & Marianne's background

2:00 - What does "fit for uncertainty" actually mean?

5:00 - 23 years at one company: what that depth of experience teaches you

7:00 - Waterfall vs. scrum: why process is not the product

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