S2 #13-4 of July episode. This episode comes from Reflections #737 with recollects about 4th of July celebrations in New Braunfels. Iris Schumann interviews Walton Hoffmann, David Freisenhahn, Jean Pfeuffer, Roberta Mueller on June 28, 1993. Then Reflections #855 where Iris Schumann interviews Wib Anacher, Bob Tays, Joline Erben, Betty Grist, Bobbie Purdum, Jean Pfeuffer on July 5, 1996. In particular listen to the stories of the “pumper races.”