What happens when a 155-year-old railway company decides to leap straight to the cutting edge of cybersecurity? In this episode of the NEVERHACK Cybercast, host Louis Zezeran breaks down zero trust from three angles: the theory, the technology, and a real-world national-scale implementation.

Domenico Iandoli (NEVERHACK Italy) explains why zero trust is not a product you can buy, but a journey — and why AI-powered attackers have made the old "patch, patch, patch" approach obsolete. Jonne Tuomela (Netskope) walks through ZTNA, SASE, and how a trust broker evaluates every single connection — identity, device, location, data and more. Then Tõnu Tammer, CTO of Estonian Railways, reveals how his team rebuilt their security architecture in months, and how they became the only company in Estonia to test their services in full isolation mode — train ...