What does it take to sit across the table from a cybercriminal — drinks in hand, at 3 a.m. in Dubai — and not blow your cover? In this episode of the NEVERHACK Estonia Cybercast, host Ronnie Jaanhold sits down with Richard K. LaTulip, author, cybersecurity expert, and retired U.S. Secret Service Special Agent (1998–2020), now Field CISO at Recorded Future.

Richard traces the evolution of cybercrime from counterfeit bills printed on all-in-one printers, through card skimming and IRC chatrooms, to the global carding forums he infiltrated during Operation Karter Chaos. He explains why the Secret Service opened an office in Tallinn, how he helped stop a million-dollar business email compromise in the Baltics, why Estonian hackers ended up with guns to their heads in the forest, and what quantum computing means for the next wave of crime.

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