Helen and Liz are joined by Courtney of That Nostalgia Show to discuss "Leonard Betts," along with the "Betts vs L'Ively" fight, a book with Liz's long-sought-after scenario of crushing someone in library stacks, and Helen's absolutely horrifying dream.

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