Every business owner will exit their company, either vertically or horizontally. The question is whether you'll do it on your terms. In this pre-show conversation on Vision Pros Live, Mark Hartmann, MBA, M&A advisor, business broker, 3x Inc. 5000 honoree, and author of Sweat Equity Payday, sits down with host Jackson Callum for a raw, unfiltered conversation about what it really takes to sell a business smart. Mark built, scaled, and sold his own company for eight figures before dedicating his second act to helping other business owners do the same. This episode dives into radical candor, the truth about marketing spend and business failure rates, the difference between posturing and real authority, and why Mark's ultimate mission goes far beyond the deal, it's about funding the next chapter of your life with purpose.