Two founders. 44 years of combined business experience. No script. Just a live conversation about what actually moves the needle, and what quietly destroys it. Angela Hodgson built her business for five years without a logo. Jackson went homeless while running a company called First Class Business. In this episode, they get raw about personal branding, authenticity, and the framework Jackson calls the Seven Avatars of Business, a concept that no one is teaching, but every entrepreneur desperately needs.

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0:00 - Two founders go live with no script

4:00 - Personal branding: the good, the dangerous, and the fake

9:00 - Why authenticity has to come before the brand

14:00 - Jackson's vulnerable moment: going homeless with "sustainable revenu ...