Vladimir Prelovac, founder of Kagi, joins Vishnu Mohandas, CEO of Ente, to unpack the story behind a search engine built on trust, not ads.

Vlad explains why “free” search is a trap, how Big Tech’s incentives distort information, and what pushed him to build Kagi — a paid, privacy-first alternative.

They dig into the origin of Kagi, the browser built by one engineer, the vision for an independent ecosystem, and why incentives matter more than features.

If you care about privacy, the future of the web, or the mindset behind mission-driven products, this one’s worth your time.

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Chapters

00:00 Start

00:25 Intro

01:00 Why build Kagi?

03:50 Early days of Kagi

06:08 Public Benefit Corporation

10:17 Paying for Search

15:00 Orion Browser

20:52 Vlad’s origin story

24:46 C ...