A discussion with Upolu Luma Vaai (Pacific Theological College) and Toda’s Kevin Clements and Volker Boege. They discuss the core principles of Pacific ecorelationality and their implications for climate change policies in the Pacific region, advocating for a ‘holistic gaze’ that overcomes anthropocentric understandings of climate change and climate policy. He explains the “Reweaving the Ecological Mat” project, an initiative which is a self-determination strategy aimed at weaving a Pasifika story of hope about genuinely Pasifika approaches to climate change, development, ecology and peace.

Interview recorded 4 May 2022