Most Pilates instructors you see on Instagram got certified in a weekend.

Montanna Michaels spent 600+ hours, and she thinks that difference is everything. Montana Michaels, a former professional dancer, and Jacquez Perry, a D1 400m runner turned mechanical engineer, join Zach and Pat to talk about building three businesses at once: RYZE Studio STL, a classical Pilates studio; a South City rental portfolio built from city-owned LRA lots and tax-sale properties; and Jack's own qualification and validation engineering firm.

They explain how the St. Louis LRA program works, why multifamily beats single-family for them, what hiring the cheapest contractor cost them, and why they answer tenant maintenance calls within a day. Montannaa explains why Pilates exploded ("because it's cute"), how to tell a real studio from a trendy ...