In this episode, I sit down with Thor Pedersen, the first person in history to visit every country in the world without flying. His decade-long journey, Once Upon a Saga, is one of the most ambitious travel projects ever completed — filled with adventure, resilience, hope, and the power of human connection.

We talk about:

• His mission
• Being stuck in Hong Kong for 2 years during the pandemic
• “A stranger is a friend you haven’t met yet”
• The importance of slow travel in a fast-travel world
• The stories the media never tells about “dangerous” countries
• His $20/day budget and travel hacks
• His favourite regions around the world
• What he learned about humanity after visiting every country
• His life after returning home, becoming a father, and writing his book The Imposs ...