Why are so many good teachers leaving the classroom? Dr. Deanna Gilmore, educator and author of There’s a Pig on the Playground, joins David and Lauren to explore teacher burnout, pay, classroom autonomy, standardized testing, and the challenges of retaining experienced educators. Plus, they look beyond the classroom to the bus drivers, paraprofessionals, cafeteria workers, custodians, and other often-unsung people who help make schools work.

Original Airdate: 9/21/2026