Jasper Wognum is a serial AI entrepreneur of 20+ years and CEO of AI Salon, the global community connecting AI founders, builders and investors across 73 chapters on every continent.

In episode 2 of StartingUP, we sit down with Jasper to talk about where AI is actually headed. His starting point is simple: technology keeps automating the parts of work nobody's actually good at anyway, the real question is what people do once it has. From there we get into why "local AI" doesn't exist, how he's using AI to build tools that used to cost him tens of thousands a month in SaaS fees, and what 20 years of building companies has taught him about working with people.

No polished founder story, no gatekeeping. Just how one founder keeps building, chapter after chapter.

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